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If you want to spin a story, twist a story, make what is black white and white black, you can always do it. There are plenty of PR groups for hire in this country that specialize in it. But what a spin this has been!

This of course concerns the Social Security System. And the spin has been to turn a case of “adding to” to “subtracting from.”

I grant it’s not the hardest thing to do by a confluence of events. Not the least of it is the amount of the bonus that has been given to its directors and board members—P1 million even for a year’s work is huge by any reckoning, but especially so by this country’s, whose wretchedness and poverty I have harped on all this time.

Coupled with the fact that the SSS raised members’ contributions a couple of years ago and is all set to increase them again early next year, the bonus of P1 million per director/board member, the amount repeated again and again and the proposition made that it is being taken away, or subtracted, from those contributions, it becomes damning in the extreme. Little wonder Emil de Quiros has been pilloried in the social media.

Behind this neon-lit facade, however, is a completely different reality.

I don’t know what the case is with the other government-owned and -controlled corporations that got bonuses, but it’s this with the SSS:

Last year alone, it added P13 billion to its coffers. Last year alone, it added P13 billion for the benefits of its members. Last year alone, it made SSS members richer by P13 billion.

Except for P-Noy who mentioned this in his State of the Nation Address last July, nobody has been thundering forth on this accomplishment. Certainly not the current SSS, which believes not in hiring PR but in hiring pros, the better to serve the public. Certainly not the current SSS itself, which believes not in advertising itself but in letting its work speak for itself.

Alas, in this country work talks like a saxophone with a plunger while spinning blasts forth like giant loudspeakers in a stadium. Alas, in this country more than any other Mark Antony’s lament rings true: “The evil that men do lives after them, the good is oft interred with their bones.”

The figures again: In 2008, the last year of Corazon de la Paz-Bernardo’s term, the SSS made P23.3 billion in net profit. In 2010, the last year of Romulo Neri’s term, the SSS made P22.8 billion. Last year, the SSS made P36.2 billion. That amount—P36.2 billion—is a little less than P13 billion more compared to the first; it is more than P13 billion more compared to the second. That is easily a third more than was made in the past.

That is what SSS members have become: They have become richer by a third more than they were in the past. They have become richer by P13 billion more than they were in the past.

That is not an accomplishment, that is a feat.

This year, from January to August alone, the SSS already accounts for a net income of P25.4 billion. With four more months to go, it could go past last year’s record.

All this, however, is dwarfed by the SSS debt, accumulated over the years, not least from the profligacy of the past regime, which now stands at P1.1 trillion. That’s what made increases in contributions necessary. The current SSS of course can always do what past administrations have done, which is to leave it to the next administrations to raise contributions so they’ll be the ones to be blamed and reviled and cursed. But it’s a matter of character, it’s a matter of what one is. Unfortunately for him, but fortunately for the public, my brother does not subscribe to Oscar Wilde’s witticism, “I will not put off for tomorrow what I can do the day after.” He believes instead that “The buck stops here.” Alas, he’s paying the price for it.

Not a centavo of the additional P13 billion that has been added to the coffers has been stolen, is missing, or is unaccounted for. Every centavo of it has gone to service SSS members. Again, I will not go on to enumerate what the current SSS has done and is doing, remembering what Tom Hanks said in “Sleepless in Seattle” when asked by the radio host to tell the world about his wife. Which was, if I recall right: “How much time does your program have?”

I’ll say this, however: If another set of SSS officers did not charge a single centavo in bonuses but either made only the same net income as in the past, or let’s be charitable and add another P2 billion to make it P25 billion, will you be crowing, “Ah, what loftiness, what grandness”? Maybe. But then you will be poorer by P11 billion (P36 billion minus P25 billion). You will have P11 billion less in pension, you will have P11 billion less in benefits.

The butal alone from the P13 billion the current officers have added to SSS is far more than enough to cover the P8 million bonus for the eight directors/board members. Which, it must be said again, is nowhere near corporate rates—the SSS may be a corporation, but it is also government. And we begrudge them that?

Of course we can always say, “Ah, but it should be enough na sabitan na lang kayo ng medalya,” the work is reward enough. But let me ask the people saying this: Would you agree to it? Would you agree to not getting honest reward for honest work? If your record has gone platinum, would you agree to not getting anything from it, the honor is reward enough? If you are a lawyer and your client has won, would you spurn the incentive pay because the victory is reward enough? If you are a reputable architect or painter or columnist, would you agree to not being paid what you’re worth (though I do at the Inquirer, ahem)?

If you are a self-respecting person, would you agree, especially if you are asking for infinitely less for infinitely more, to be called greedy and callous and lacking in conscience?

Who’s leaving a bad taste in the mouth?


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  • Cue_Vas

    I don’t know why you still don’t get it CDQ. The bonuses should not have been given at the same time that increase in members’ contributions for lack of funds are being announced. Give out bonuses when you’ve already licked the “lack of funds” conundrum, for chrissakes. And again, as I always repeat it, SSS frontline service sucks. And they deserve bonuses? C’mon.

    • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

      Bro, people like you cannot appreciate things you do not understand.

      Atty Salvosa of GCG, the commission who supervises the GOCCs have explained that the bonuses are based on measurable parameters publicly published (in newspapers) and their websites. If you only educated yourself You wouldnt be posting your garbage post.

      In the case of SSS, it was explained that there were 59,000 complaints in over 9 million transactions, thus the performance rating in that element was a resounding 99% rating. Is that something you cant accept?

      On the issue of bonus, you think P1M bonus is too much? That is not even half of what board members in the private sector receives. That is not even comparable with the P17M that Romulo Neri received as SSS chairman in 2010 when SSS profit was a mere P22B. Now that P36B was made, a mere P1M bonus inirereklamo mo pa? Nasaan ka noong 2010?

      Dpat matuwa ka at may GCG na nangangalaga sa actuations ng GOCCs.

      • joan hl

        59,000 complaints in over 3 million transactions? Is this accurate? Oh, wait. You must mean formal complaints. Because, I am pretty sure of all those who actually go to SSS to fall in line, majority find the service to be deplorable. But I guess, they just don’t formally file a complaint.

        As you can glean from different people here who think that the bonus is unacceptable, they usually say that had the service of SSS been ok, they wouldn’t mind the bonus.

        Re: Romulo’s bonus, well, let us just say, for convenience that Neri was the worst SSS president ever. Improving on Neri’s performance doesn’t necessarily mean that you are doing a job par excellence. It may mean you are just worse or bad. I’m not saying that is the case in De quiros, only that you shouldn’t compare the two. If some people are saying De quiros et al’s bonuses are unjustified, then Neri’s et al’s bonuses were more unjustified. And btw. Mas masama ang loob ko nong panahon ni Neri. Di mo lang siguro nakita. :D

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        “And btw. Mas masama ang loob ko nong panahon ni Neri. Di mo lang siguro nakita. :D”

        May palusot ka pa. Kahit tignan ko, wala sa 74 posts mo so far.

      • Justpassingby

        Wow pare, binilang mo ha? Obsessed na obsessed ka to the point of losing credibility. Full time mo bang ginagawa ito para sa SSS? Mali sila sa pagpili ng PR man, mas marami kang naaantagonize kaysa sa nakukumbinsi, he he he.

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        Bro two points.
        1) You dont need to count. All you need to do is click the username and it will tell you how may posts one have so far. It will also show you since when did the username existed. Try it. Itong si Joan palusot nya, hindi ko lang daw nakita yung batikos nya. How could that be, he joined disqus 5 months ago lang.
        2) I am here to antagonize people na reklamador. I need not be a PR man of your government. Your government cant even pay your president a decent salary. How more can they pay me?

      • joan hl

        Hahaha. Ang reklamo ba sa Disqus lang pwedeng gawin?

        Noted Mr. Crisostomo. :D

      • Justpassingby

        Bugok, so what happens to your statement: Kahit tignan ko, WALA sa 74 posts mo so far. how did you become so sure na wala? Bluff? it backfires ha ha ha.

        Here to antagonize people? Uh OK, tandaan ko yan.

      • Scarlet

        You did your part, kung ayaw nila maniwala walang irregularidad then let them. Don’t let yourself sink that low.

      • Justpassingby

        Good advice, ha ha ha. Huwag masyadong i-expose ang kabugokan.

      • Scarlet

        My point exactly! huwag na siang masyadong mag argue para di masyadong ma expose kabugokan mo. haha

      • Justpassingby

        Look kung paano niya ini-expose ang pagiging bugok niya, naawa ako kaya sinamahan ko na, ha ha ha! As I told Joan, he greeted me, so to be polite, I greeted him in each of my post. Malay natin may ibang meaning pala sa kanya ang bugok, so I was doing him a favor.

        He said it himself, he is here to antagonize people do you now regret it for him that he got a load of his own medicine?

      • joan hl

        Hi scarlet. If a person doesn’t agree with your view, does it mean he is already below your level? :D

      • Justpassingby

        Good point. Round 1 has started, he he he.

      • Scarlet

        Hi! It’s not about the difference in opinion. He was passionate about his point to the point of using angry words. That’s why I asked him to stop. Di naman natin kailangan magmurahan kahit di tayo pareho ng pinaniniwalaan. For the record, I never said below mine or his level. kaya di mo kailangan isipin ganyan ang ibig kung sabihin.

      • joan hl

        Oh! I might have misconstrued the “sink that low” part of your comment to crisostomo. Sorry. My bad. Good day scarlet!

      • joan hl

        Mainit ang ulo ni koya, Justpassingby. :D

      • Justpassingby

        Hi Joan! Hindi naman.He greeted me in his post so to be polite, I greeted him in each of my post. Testing lang yung kasabihang “if you can dish it out you should be able to take it”. So I assume the role of your side, pero personally I still agree to the fairness of giving bonus even just to keep the good men in the government. Kaya lang binigyan ko yata kayo ng maraming bala kung i-explore nyo, he he he.

      • joan hl

        Hi Justpassingby. I know that you still stand firm in your position. :) Parang galit lang kung mag explain si Crisostomo. Kahit sa mga sagot nya sa akin, parang may pinaghuhugutan. hehehe

        You call each other bugok. I guess, that’s a guy thing. Or maybe you know each other? hahaha

      • Justpassingby

        No, we don’t know each other, ha ha ha!

      • joan hl

        Ay sori naman. Dapat ba sa disqus lang? Ngayon lang kasi ako naging active sa Disqus e. Sa fb ko at sa diskusyon ko with friends ako galit. Pwede ba yun boss?

      • Justpassingby

        No need to explain to him, mayaman yan as in may sariling mundo, he he he.

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        “59,000 complaints in over 3 million transactions? Is this accurate? Oh, wait. You must mean formal complaints.”

        Of course you have to base it on numbers not perception. Even on filing charges against people, you need to base it on documents not on what you hear from people.
        Saan ka ba nag-aral at hindi mo alam yun?

      • joan hl

        Hay naku, Crisostomo. Make sure na super talino mo para maggaganyan ka ha. San ka ba nag-aral at parang alam mo lahat? Pag-aaralin ko din dyan ang baby ko. :D

        Tsaka, again, puso mo. Galit na galit ka e.

        I agree that the bonus must be based on some quantitative data. However, even in private companies, the measure of performance is also based on perception. KAya nga may customer feedback e. Swerte nila, no choice mga tao. Otherwise, wala ng customer SSS ngayon.,

      • Justpassingby

        May matira pa Joan, me and my wife inspite of Mr. Crisostomo. In fact to indicate which side I am I will greet him as a comrade in arms when he reads this: Hi bugok!

      • joan hl

        Hahaha. Natawa nga ako sa exchange. Considering magkapareho pa kayo ng side nyan ha! I cannot imagine kung magkaiba kayo ng side. :D

      • Justpassingby

        Di niya alam dati, trigger happy kaya pinangatawanan na lang he he he.

      • Justpassingby

        Measurable parameters… Could SSS educate us more on this? That will be great and if found to be effective set the same on other agencies as well to inlcude rank and file, honest people need the incentives… and for the worst performers enough reason to kick them out.

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        Bro naman, basa basa naman ng konti pag may time.

        Di nga ba at first quarter of every year, GCG publishes the performance parameters of GOCCs including SSS. Hilig kasi ng mga taong katulad mo ay papetik petik lang. Puro dakdak at katamaran. Typical istambay na nagrereklamong walang trabaho dahil hindi naman naghahanap.

        Bigyan kita ng konting mababasa mo

        SSS
        Performance Evaluation System (PES)

        MOF Operations

        MOF1 (Service Delivery)
        Performance Indicator 1 (Amount of benefits disbursed)
        Target amount of benefits disbursement P87.54B
        Actual amount of benefits disbursed in 2012 P88.55%
        Performance Rating 101.15%

        Performance Indicator 2 (#of complaint against # of transactions)
        Number of complaints in 2012 – 59,592
        Number of transactions in 2012 – 9,102,471
        Performance Rating 100.35%

        So basa basa naman ng konti so you can educate yourself. Bugok!

      • Justpassingby

        At ano naman ang pakialam mo kung tambay ako? Ako may pakialam sa SSS kasi kahit “tambay” ako, eh member ako saka ang asawa ko, nagbabayad kami ng premium ng tama sa oras kaya syempre may pakialam kami sa nangyayari sa pinaghirapan namin, bugok! Saka basa basa ng konti para makita mo kung ano ang stand ko tungkol dito.

        I am asking SSS to educate US more on this kasi di ako nagmamagaling na tulad mo, he he he. Kung taga SSS ka you are rude for an agency dealing with the public. Sa dami ng nagrereklamo kailangang gumawa ng paraan ang SSS na maliwanagan kung fair nga ba yung bonus, it is for the people and for their own sake as well. At bakit ko naman sinama yung sarili ko kahit agree ako sa bonus? Kasi tulad ng sabi ko sa karamihan dito na di tulad mong bugok, we are one in the quest for better governance, we disagree right now but if SSS can show ALL the parameters (Sa totoo lang yung na cite mo sa taas para sa akin kulang na kulang para tumbasan ng 1M bonus, he he he.) baka makumbinsi yung nag aalinlangan lang at di nambabatikos dahil uso lang. O ayan bugok, maliwanag na?

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        “Sa dami ng nagrereklamo kailangang gumawa ng paraan ang SSS na maliwanagan kung fair nga ba yung bonus, it is for the people and for their own sake as well.”

        Yan na nga ba ang sinasabi ko di ba? Basa basa ng konti pag may time. The information was given by Atty Paolo Salvosa, ang spokeperson ng GCG. Do you know what GCG is?

        Hindi ako taga SSS. I dont even need to be authorized to speak for them. All I did is listened to the interview of Karen Davila in headstart when Atty Salvosa explained everything. He also explained it in one of the news article of PDI.

        Kung nagbabasa ka lang sana, hindi ka na magiging reklamador ng bayan katulad ng mga bugok na nagrereklamo dito. Akala mo kung sinong magagaling. Kulang lang pala sa pagbabasa.

      • Justpassingby

        Bugok ka, gusto mong mangumbinsi, ilatag mo ang ebidensiya ng buong buo, saka ko babasahin at i double check kung duda ako.

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        Mahirap kumbinsihin ang mga taong nagtatanga tangahan. Just the same here are just 2 of the most importnat performance indicators na normal process sa GOCC mula ng itinatag ang GOCC law.

        SSS 2012
        Performance Evaluation System (PES)

        MOF Operations

        MOF1 (Service Delivery)
        Performance Indicator 1 (Amount of benefits disbursed)
        Target amount of benefits disbursement P87.54B
        Actual amount of benefits disbursed in 2012 P88.55%
        Performance Rating 101.15%

        Performance Indicator 2 (#of complaint against # of transactions)
        Number of complaints in 2012 – 59,592
        Number of transactions in 2012 – 9,102,471
        Performance Rating 100.35%

        Sige, i double check mo kung duda ka!

      • joan hl

        Boss, Crisostomo, kung ayaw mong mangumbinsi, anong point mo bakit sinasagot mo pa yung mga comments? Eto naman ay pagtatanong lang. Wag mong ikagagalit ha. :D

      • aldren85

        Joan, this ibarra character is from the gutter. Please do not allow yourself to be brought to his level. Me, from now on, di ko na papatulan yan. Kung puede nga sanang idelete na lang ang comments nyan, puro bugok, tanga at basura lang ang laman.

      • joan hl

        Baka naman misunderstood lang. Or baka may pinagdadaanan. :D

      • Scarlet

        I suggest you stop replying to him. Kahit anong figure pa isampal mo sa
        mga taong kumbisidong may mali kahit wala naman, wala kang maipapakita
        to change their minds.

      • Justpassingby

        Sampalin mo na yan. Kakampi tinitira, he he he. Na-friendly fire ako kaya ti-nest ko lang kung malalim ang pinanghuhugutan. Wala hanggang basa lang pala.

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        “we disagree right now but if SSS can show ALL the parameters (Sa totoo lang yung na cite mo sa taas para sa akin kulang na kulang para tumbasan ng 1M bonus, he he he.) baka makumbinsi yung nag aalinlangan lang at di nambabatikos dahil uso lang.”

        Inilabas na yang performance parameters na yan. It was even published every first quarter of the year. Ang mga taong katulad mo kasi hindi nagbabasa. Panay banat bago basa. Even this PEC ng SSS was already out kaya nga inaprubahan ang performance bonus nila. Noon bang P17M ang na cash in na perks at bonus ni Romulo Neri sa SSS noong 2010, nagreklamo ka rin?

      • Justpassingby

        Bugok ka talaga, it is the here and now, gusto mo kaming kumbinsihin ilatag mo at huwag mo kaming utusang mag research. Halimbawa, kahit alam na ng lahat na tapos na ang building, pag mag bill ka ng 100% mag aatach ka pa rin ng ebidensiya na tapos nga for the record tapos i-check pa rin for formality. Pag mag claim ng insurance kahit alam na ng lahat na
        patay na yung tao, attach pa rin ng death certificate.

        Ngayon prove to us na tama lang yung na claim, malay namin baka piso lang ang tamang bonus dahil 2 lang na target ang na attain at pasang awa pa.

        At ano naman ang kinalaman ni Neri dito sa bagay na ito? Ang kaso ni Neri ay separate na issue. Kung taga SSS ka at duda pala kayo sa bonus na iyon, inimbistigahan ba sila ni EDQ kung tama lang yung mga bonus na iyon? Kung hindi pabaya siya at dapat bawiin yung bonus niya.

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        “Halimbawa, kahit alam na ng lahat na tapos na ang building, pag mag bill ka ng 100% mag aatach ka pa rin ng ebidensiya na tapos nga for the record tapos i-check pa rin for formality.”

        Kung hindi ka ba naman sandamukal na tamad. Babasahin mo na lang hindi mo pa magawa?

        Eto:

        SSS 2012
        Performance Evaluation System (PES)

        MOF Operations

        MOF1 (Service Delivery)
        Performance Indicator 1 (Amount of benefits disbursed)
        Target amount of benefits disbursement P87.54B
        Actual amount of benefits disbursed in 2012 P88.55%
        Performance Rating 101.15%

        Performance Indicator 2 (#of complaint against # of transactions)
        Number of complaints in 2012 – 59,592
        Number of transactions in 2012 – 9,102,471
        Performance Rating 100.35%

        Sige, i double check mo kung duda ka!

      • Justpassingby

        Namputsa. Di ko na kailangang i-double check. Barely making the grade for only 2 targets do not merit a 1M. Kung kumbinsido ka diyan na it’s worth 1M bugok ka nga.

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        What do you mean barely making the grade? Feeling smart ka pa.

        The target is set at the beginning of the year. If you exceed the target, that triggers the performance bonus. If you miss the target, you dont get the bonus. The P1M is based on the net revenue of the GOCC. For SSS, its P28.54 B. FYI, their target Net revenue was only P26.32.

      • Justpassingby

        performance: 101.15%… 1.15% above target do not merit a 1M bonus. Not meeting the target means fail, right? then 1.15% above the target is barely making it. If I am not that smart and I accept I am really not, then what can you say about a guy that cannot even make that simple analysis? Bugok, right?

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        See kulang ka na naman sa pagbabasa. Part of the Performance Agreement each of these GOCC submits (some yearly, others every 2 years) includes the following note as per GCG memodandum:

        “It is understood that the GOCC must achieve a weiqhted-averaqe of at least 90% to be eligible to grant any Performance-Based Bonus.”

        That is the law!

        The performance bonus is still based on the net income of the GOCC.

        Bro, basa basa naman ng konti pag may time. Hindi ka ba nagsasawa? Lagi kang supalpal?

      • Justpassingby

        Di ka ba nakakaintindi? ang sabi ko ilatag mo ang ebidensiya at titingnan ko, nilatag mo ba iyan? Kung sa korte di consider na ebidensiya yung di naman sinubmit na ebidensiya. di ka ba nagsasawa na magmukhang bugok? Analyse muna ng binasa bago tira.

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        Palusot ka pa. Lagi ka namang supalpal .

        Basa basa ng konti pag may time para hindi magmukhang bugok na walang alam! Reklamador!

      • Justpassingby

        Bugok, sinong palusot? Kaya ka pala ganyan, walang tao na nasa tamang kaisipan ang magconsider ng isang bagay na hindi inillatag sa usapan. Lahat ng analysis ko galing sa nilatag mo tapos mag involve ka ng kung ano ano hanggang pati MWSS nasali. Kung ganoon isali na rin natin si Obama at yung epekto ng dolyar niya.

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        “At ano naman ang kinalaman ni Neri dito sa bagay na ito? ”

        Gusto kong malaman mo na noong panahon ng fake economists itong mga GOCCs na yan ay ni ransack nila up to the last centavo na pwedeng nakawin. P17M noong 2010 hindi ka nagreklamo. After the GOCC Law was passed, the GCG was tasked to oversee the operations of these GOCCs including the performance bonus evaluation. Ngayong naghigpit at mataas ang performance, P1M inirereklamo mo pa?

      • Justpassingby

        Kahina mo umintindi. Si Neri walang pakialam sa 1M bonus ni EDQ. May kinalaman siya sa 17M na nakuha niya, maliwanag na, bugok?

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        So let me get it straight. Pag P17M ok sa yo. Pero pag P1M hindi? Sus kabugukan nga naman oo.

      • Justpassingby

        Don’t ASSume what is not said. Hina mo talaga. I copy paste ko nga uli sinabi ko: May kinalaman siya sa 17M na nakuha niya, maliwanag na, bugok?
        Ano na ginawa dito ni EDQ? Sa Pagcor pinagkakasuhan na ng bagong administration yung mga dating executive na umabuso. Ayan galit pa rin ako. kilos na ang dapat kumilos at yun ay ang bagong pamunuan, bago sila maluma.

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        Bugok! Ang kasakiman ni Neri kasama ng MWSS ang nagbunsod ng GOCC law. Ang direct consequence ng pangaabusong ito ang nagbigay daan sa fair bonus na natanggap ngayon ni EDQ. Ngayon. Naintindihan mo na ang kinalaman ng bonus ni Neri sa issue?

        Anong kilos ang hinihikayat mo? Kasuhan ang mga taong nag perform exceeding their set target?

        Maybe ask for another Million People March na 2400 lang ang umaattend? Epic Fail!

      • Justpassingby

        O nasama na naman pati MWSS. Simple lang naman ang usapan, 1M bonus, fair o hindi. Nabugok na talaga.
        Hilong talilong ka pala, paano mo kami makukumbinsi niyan. Ang sinabi kong kasuhan kong may mali ay si Neri, basa basa bago magmukhang tanga… Kaya nga ang tanong ko, ano na ginawa ni EDQ tungkol dito? Ulitin ko din ang pwede niyang panggayahan – ayan ha, may maliwanag na kuneksiyon, panggagayahan – Sa Pagcoryung mga dating umabuso nakasuhan na ng bagong pamunuan noon pa. Di pwede yung turo lang ng turo kay Neri, aksiyon din ang kailangan.

        May pa martsa martsa ka pa wala namang kinalaman sa usapan, he he he. Yan ang bugok.

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        Bro, as always, huli ka na sa balita. May kaso na si Romulo Neri. Ang kanyang tax liability na pinagbabayad sya ng P18.26 million.

        So kelan ang martsa nyong epic fail na naman!

      • Justpassingby

        Uminom ka ba ng gamot mo bago sumagot? Medyo napag isipan mo yata ito ngayon. Pero dapat naghintay ka muna ng mga 5 minutes para 100% na epekto kasi may pa-martsa martsa ka pa ring nababanggit. So ang tanong bakit ba sinasali mo si Neri eh nakasuhan na nga for the same offense? The issue here is EDQ and his 1M bonus, maliwanag?

        Saka nga pala, tax liability ang kaso, eh BIR ang may sakop niyon hindi SSS. Wala bang na breach na rule sa SSS para kasuhan ng SSS mismo tulad ng ginawa sa Pagcor?

  • zugz

    haha trying hard to deodorize the immorality of his brother’s action . tsk tsk have to print this article and use it to wipe my morning sh!t.

  • josh_alexei

    Where on earth that a pensioner has to drag himself to the pension agency office yearly to keep getting his benefits or to get into the computer and verify he is still alive and breathing to keep receiving his pensions? Pensioners in the wheelchairs, with canes and even my own brother who is visiting his grandchildren in the US has to check via Skypes with the GSIS to renew his survivor pension of his late wife from GSIS? and I don’t know what he did for his SSS…

    In comparison since we are talking about service to warrant rewards which our Civil servants may not even get an increase in salary since we are still recovering from recession..I applied for my Government pension without leaving my bedroom as I did On Line, and by golly the pensions including the old age security right on the accounts on schedule every month without miss…And at 4.5 % premium guaranteed to get it,index to inflation and cost of living the rest of my life and will stop only when the Coroners submitted the report that I am a goner.

    • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

      Bro it is way different from US or Canada. Trust is key. I think no one in Canada or US would dare shortchange the system because they know that when they cross the system, they will be caught sooner than later and they will pay dearly. I knew of one person who claimed old age pension for someone who should not be in the system that early and he was asked to pay back everything with interest. When he was not able to pay back, the government put a lien on his property.

      In the Philippines, since the system is prone to corruption, the only way to verify is to make sure the recipients are not ghost pensioners. They cannot rely on mere documents that can be bought in recto. They need to see real people.

      • josh_alexei

        But the SSS and GSIS can not just keep on maintaining these type of verifications and not trying to remedy the system to improve their services. It can also enforce stiff fines and punishment for cheaters and implement measures to keep improving the services. It can start by having a unique Social insurance number for each and every resident or citizen, have a centralized data bank..( a very good project for the Porks) and start converting to eletronic services to avoid personal contact and that could also minimize bribery and corruption. Evolution just would not happen in a few years but a long term goals..it’s already five years and we still not able to digitaized our health records, but we keep on going and we set the year 2015 to see it working, but who knows? (the Government spent upward to $2 billions and went back to square one)

      • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

        But bro, these verifications are being done to weed out ghost records. I am sure they are weeding them out by these verifications. What I understood when I asked the GSIS call center the last time is that they will continue with the verification until they weed out as much ghosts as they can. In time, just like the operation in LTO, their system will be having a much better database to workon. Until then we just have to trust that they are doing it to improve the system.

      • josh_alexei

        Just hope so, because just don;t want my brother to worry soo much about his hard earned pensions getting cut off..By any amount it is not very much, but he said he worked soo hard all his life to earn it.And he is enjoying his time with his grandchildren on both sides of the borders.

  • Baket?

    Of all people, CDQ should know that his brother Emilio is on his way out of BPI. He was already 61 when he joined the SSS in 2010. In fact, very close to retirement. At 61, Emilio was just an EVP, a position that high performers could have attained in their early to mid 40s. In fact, given Emilio’s seniority and high paygrade, he’s already too expensive for BPI vis-a-vis his mediocre performance. Assuming that Emilio was one of the high performers or high-value assets of BPI, the CEO of BPI then Gigi Montinola certainly did not bat an eye and immediately accepted Emilio’s resignation. The fact that the opportunity to work in SSS came along was a rare stroke of luck for Emilio, thanks largely to CDQ’s connections with the current administration. It was not because Emilio is extraordinarily qualified for the job.

    So please stop your hard sell CDQ, as if your brother Emilio did a terrific job and deserves millions of bonuses. Those of us who know your brother Emilio can tell you that he gets a lot more than just the declared bonuses. He’s been receiving big fat commissions by the millions for investing with this or that fund. Of course, using SSS funds, not his personal money. So please stop pretending as if your brother Emilio has been shortchanged or wronged by the public. Mahiya ka naman, walang hiya na nga yung kapatid mo, gagatungan mo pa.

    • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

      So bilang EVP ng BPI, may idea ka ba kung magkano ang tinatanggap ni EDQ na bonus bago ito na appoint sa SSS?

  • raptor_d_lonewolf

    nakupooooo CDQ……and SSS eh nabubuhay dahil sa contribution ng kanyang mga members ang me ari nyan eh yung mga members ng SSS. san ba nangaling yung pinang invest ng kapatid mo? davahhhhhhh….. galing yun sa contribusyon ng mga members!!!! ok sige kung sinasabi mo na walang nanakaw or nawala sa 13billion peysus na nasa SSS eh bakit magtataas pa sila ng contribution sa lahat ng members?
    at bakit naman 1million ang bonus ng bawat board directors? dahil ang sabi eh kumita ang SSS…eh yun pa rin ang magiging tanong….. bakit magtataas ng contribution?????? honest reward for honest work? eh bakit yung mga contirbutors sa SSS eh me honest work din naman sila ah. bakit wala silang honest reward galing SSS bagkus eh tinaas pa ang contributions…pero nde naman nataas ang pension ng mga retirees. pag nasa public service ka CDQ…… dapat mo ibigay ang iyung best of the best sa trabaho….. nde mo kailangan ang reward. nakapagbigay ka ng maganda paglilingkod sa kapwa nde kelanga ang reward.

    • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

      Bro bago ka dumakdak ng dumakdak, try to educate yourself. Know what these board of directors used to get in their lucrative positions in the private sector before they were asked to turn around the GOCC they were currently appointed. Know too the performance parameters and how they fared in 2012.

      Do you even know that Romulo Neri in 2010 as SSS head took P17M that year in perks and bonuses? Nagreklamo ka ba noon?

      • raptor_d_lonewolf

        bro ikaw ang dapat mag educate ng sarili mo bago ka rin dumakdak ng dumakdak, yung kapatid ni de quiros ang pinamamalaki mo? ilan taon yan sa BPI? bakit hanggang EVP lang sya? oopppssss… me wento na pala sa baba. nag wento na si baket. basahin mo nalang.

        sa GOCC nde kelangan ang what you know…. ang kelangan jan….who you know. at ang main point dito eh yung nag bigay sila ng a million bonus sa “kanilang sarili” pero, take note ha….bonus… 1mil…pero at the same time eh mag increase ng contributions ang lahat ng members ng SSS. nag increase ba ang pension ng mga retirees? ng bigay ba sila ng bonus sa mga retirees? kanino ba yung SSS…davahhhhhh sa lahat ng contributing members? sila ang me ari nyan!!! kung ang sinasabi mo eh lucrative positions, they should have said no when they were appointed becoz being in government is a public service. but no, they did not say no to their apointment dahil nakakita sila ng butas na pede nilang pagkaperahan ang SSS. kung nasa private sector sila at member sila ng board do you think they can just say na 1 mill ang bonus ko!!!

        Si Neri ng magkabukohan eh nito na lamang. yes ng reklamo rin ako. kaso matibay ang backer ni neri nun.

  • kutoots

    Board member din ng PhilHealth itong kapatid ni CDQ na si Emil de Quiros. At kelan lang ay napabalita na ginamit nila ang P1.448 billion na pondo ng PhilHealth for bonuses kahit pa sinabihan na sila ng COA na huwag itong gawin dahil short sila ng higit sa P3 billion na reserve for 2013.

    Ibig sabihin kumukubra na sa SSS, kumukubra din sa PhilHealth itong si EDQ? And to think na mga secretaries ng iba’t-ibang departamento ang nakaupo sa board ng PhilHealth )DILG, DSWD, DOLE, DOH, etc.), sila-sila ding nasa gabinete ni PNoy ang ang nagpapasasa sa kontribusyon ng mga members ng PhilHealth at kahit ng SSS.

    Mga gahaman!!!

  • http://darwintaylo.com/ Win Taylo

    I think the biggest reason this release of huge (yes, grand, just think that millions of people earn an average of only 1/10th of those amounts for an entire year) bonuses caused this negative reaction from the public is because even if the figures are explained in black and white, the result that this “improvement” is expected to have is not felt by the public. So giving millions of bonuses to executives or officers who did their jobs right still doesn’t sound right when SSS fails to live up to the service that the public expects them to provide. I think not until the public/members are satisfied with the way SSS does their business will these kind of bonuses be acceptable at this extent.

    • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

      Isa ka pa. How do you measure the way SSS does their business? Di ba dapat quantifiable at hindi yung naririnig mo lang sa kanto? Ikaw ba, may bad experience ka ba sa SSS? Inireklamo mo ba ito? The facts are staring you

      SSS

      MOF1 (Service Delivery)

      Performance Indicator 2 (#of complaint against # of transactions)
      Number of complaints in 2012 – 59,592
      Number of transactions in 2012 – 9,102,471
      Performance Rating 100.35%

      For sure 59,592 complaints pag pinapila mo sa kalye is a lot of complaints but if you compare it with the number of transactions 9,102,471. Significant ba yung complaints which is a mere 0.65% of the total transactions.

      • joan hl

        Crisostomo, puso mo. Chill lang. Eto naman ay napag uusapan lang. :D

    • Just me

      Well, sa experience ng husband ko, when comparing it with the experience of my mother, mas mabilis at mas systematized na nga naman ang SSS ngayon. Maniwala ka pre, mas marami pang mas malala na govenment office who do not even have the gall to improve their system kahit konti. Example? Natry mo na magtransact with Land Registration Authority? Sus mauubos pasensya mo.

    • Scarlet

      On my opinion the current SSS has more than lived up to my expectation. Noon kailangan magbaon ng tonetoneladang pasensya para pumila makapagloan lang. Ngayon all I do is to log in to my SSS account, and electronically apply for a loan. Hindi ba improvement yan?! On my humble opinion, those who work on GOCC’s and agencies should be given a fair amount of bonus because kung hindi bibigyan nang sapat na bonus ang magagaling na empleyado, chances are ipapirate yan ng private sector. Hindi naman outrageous ang 1M kung totoo ang 13B na sinasabi ni CDQ. Porket Government agency di na dapat magbigay ng bonus, e kaya nangungulelat lagi kasi mga walang kwenta natitira, lumulipat ang magagaling sa private sector.

  • janperryeugenio

    CDQ is my idol. but this article is a BIG disappointment..

  • Fandong

    Once more with feeling: Conrad all BS on bro

    BY SPINADMIN 10/19/2013 BONUSES CONRADO DE QUIROS SSS

    We have a confession to make.

    Once upon a time, we were idol worshippers, and by idol we meant Conrado De Quiros. Every morning we ran to the newsstands for his polemics, especially those that captured national anger over Gloria’s evil reign (a fact apologists like Bobi Tiglao perpetually deny). We clung to CDQ’s every word, got a natural high from the ink in his columns. When he said it was black, we believed it to be black. When he said it was white, that was that. CDQ had the last word.

    Then BS happened.

    Truth to tell, we miss the old CDQ. He’s been as bad an apologist for BS Aquino as he was good in pillorying Gloria Arroyo. The final straw was when he wrote that the bumbling BS Aquino was the best-ever public speaker among Philippine presidents. The guy’s gone mad!

    We get the constant need for CDQ to defend his Lord and Savior BS. He wouldn’t want to admit that he bet on the wrong horse, right? But it seems this Yellow disease, this Benigno-coccemia, has afflicted CDQ beyond repair. At probably the cost of his credibility, De Quiros has decided to defend the indefensible — the millions in bonuses showered by the SSS board members on themselves for supposedly good performance last year.

    That he was defending his brother Emil, the SSS chief appointed by BS Aquino, was bad enough. But he had to do it two days in a row, each time sounding like the SSS annual report! Who knew CDQ could make heads or tails of SSS financial statements?

    The Teng brothers pale in comparison to the De Quiroses, and that’s because the brotherly love shown by Conrad to Emil, inspired by their mutual allegiance to BS Aquino, threw out all journalistic proscriptions versus conflict of interest. The op-ed page editor, Rosario Garcellano, didn’t seem to notice, or didn’t seem to care. This was the paper that banished Gloria cheerleader Belinda Cunanan for lesser crimes.

    And BS cheerleader Conrad had chastised, sanctimoniously and for lesser improprieties, other public officials not surnamed De Quiros. He could’ve done the same to his bonus-loving brother, but couldn’t see how taking a million-peso bonanza was in bad taste amid terrible SSS service and the fact that Emil’s gonna raise SSS premiums starting next year. And it’s not as if Emil De Quiros’s board was like that of his former private sector employers who had shelled out capital and were thus fully entitled to the fruits of their investment decisions.

    At any rate, why P1 million and not P500,000? Why not P200,000? Or P100,000? That’s the kind of game Conrad used to be good at. What’s in a name? All the difference, really!

    It’s not just us or Ted Failon who think the SSS had rendered bad service. Heidi Mendoza’s COA had this to say:

    In short, the SSS sucks at the job it’s supposed to be good at. Does it deserve millions in bonuses?

    And we’re not even talking about unreliable or erroneous accounting and collection records, failure to collect tens of millions from large-account employers, and weak internal controls. We don’t think Conrad’s aware of these, otherwise he wouldn’t have praised his beloved brother to high heavens for doing wonders at SSS, or vowed to stop writing columns “immediately” if the people hounding Emil were able to “show a single centavo that has disappeared, been misplaced, or is unaccounted for under his watch.” Or he could simply be bluffing, like BS his boss. What a shame.

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    Henry Samonte

    10/19/2013 AT 5:50 PM REPLY

    The 34 billion income by SSS defies gravity. How can they earn that much when they are already worried that if they do not raise the monthly next year, the SSS funds will dry up?

  • Bisaya

    1M lang naman pala eh. OK na yan pagbigyan nyo na. Pero dapat yung rank and file me bonus din para fair. BIR check nyo taxe ng mga ‘to.



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